There are many times when Elves flee Middle-earth. New generations are born among those who remain but the Elves eventually all have to leave Middle-earth or fade. Have you read our other Tolkien and Middle-earth Questions and Answers articles? Your email:.
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Use this form to contact Michael Martinez. Thank you. Org in the past. Please read this notice about emails sent from Xenite. Org if you don't see the confirmation email. Org when new posts are published. Please whitelist Xenite. It's not likely that if he had sustained enough injury to kill off his physical form once again that the Valar would have sent his spirit back once more to middle-earth. How old is Gandalf? Gandalf walked in Middle-earth for approximately 2, years, un-aging and appearing as a grey bearded human of about 60 years old or so.
He was around long before Middle-earth was created and before the Years of the Lamps. He, Saruman and Sauron are approximately the same age - give or take. Why didn't dwarves help in Lord of the Rings? The dwarves of Erebor and the Iron Hills could not send an army to Gondor's aid because they were already fighting for their lives against invasion by Sauron's forces.
Why did Frodo leave at end? Frodo left Middle-earth because of what happened to him during Lord of the Rings. He experienced two injuries which never completely faded, meaning he couldn't stay and be happy in Middle-earth. Why didn't the elves help the dwarves? The Elves were apparently aware of the Dwarves as they traveled through the forest and left them alone.
The Elves could still have imprisoned him and his companions for trespassing but they might have been more inclined to give the Dwarves a little food and send them on their way. Why were the elves at helm deep? The Elves at Helm's Deep were a departure from the book version and were added for some reason by Peter Jackson and his team. Because of this, they would need to play a bigger part in an already pretty expansive story or they would have to be quietly dropped from the plot.
Why didn't Elrond leave Rivendell? The death of an elf is also a bit exceptional since they first go to Halls of Mandos and after that they might get a new body. They are chained to this world so to speak. Now Elrond and his children are an exception, because Elrond is half-elven and that gives him and his children a choice.
They may choose an immortal life and leave for the Undying Lands if they wish, or they can stay behind and die as humans. I think there are threads here that discuss this choice more on deepth, so I won't go into that. I'll just say that Elrond chose the life of an elf and thus he also got a yearning to sail West. Arwen on the contrary chose the mortal life because she married Aragorn etc. I think that's reason enough to talk a whole 9 hours about your daughters death. This was of course a very short presentation of the whole matter.
I'd recommend to do a search on topics about the subject if you wish to know more. I bet there are a lot of long debates around some of the subjects I took up here. Eyrie , I think you explained it quite well, no need to go into too much detail here.
Yes, elves are immortal, but that only means they can't die of old age or sickness. They can still die from a broken heart fragile people I say or in battle. The elves go to the Undying Lands because that marks an ending point to their life.
Now, as Eyrie said, not all decide to go there, some decide to stay in Middle-earth when they will just be forgotten and fade away. It seems you have a misconception about the Undying Lands, that it makes the people who go there immortal. Mortals who go there Frodo, Bilbo, and eventually Gimli and Sam will die there eventually. The Undying Lands doesn't make people immortal, the mortals who go there eventually die. On half-elves, Eyrie explained this well, no need to go into much detail. Elrond kept saying Arwen was going to die because she was a half-elf and was going to choose a mortal life.
Half-elves get this choice. Since Arwen chose to marry Aragorn, she revoked her elvish life, and would die shortly after Aragorn's death. Fenris Penguin. Elves are bound to the earth and they do age albeit very slowly. As they age their spirits become dominant over their physical bodies until they become beings of spirit only this explains in the created mythology why we don't see even a few elves around today.. This is referred to as the fading of the elves - this process was held back in Rivendell and Lorien by the power of the Elven rings.
Find More Posts by Mithalwen. I believe the "refusenik" elves who didn't originally go to Aman have to stay on Middle-earth, and will gradually fade, while the remaining Noldor after The War against Melkor and the half-elven have a choice of staying and fading or going to Aman, according to past discussions and some reading by me in Tolkien's works.
Whereas I originally thought all elves had the choice of the half-elven.
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